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McComb Selectman Danny Esch pauses before sitting down at his hearing on Tuesday night. Esch kept his post on a 3-2 vote. (Aaron Rhoads | Enterprise-Journal)
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Esch holds on to post: Selectman keeps seat on board with 3-2 vote


Posted: 06/04/08 - 12:50:13 pm CDT

Embattled selectman Danny Esch remained in office Tuesday after his peers on the McComb city board voted 3-2 to affirm his residency in the city’s first ward.
“I feel very good,” Esch said afterward. “We prevailed. Mr. Norman Gillis, (Esch’s attorney), showed where my domicile was ... where my heart is at and where it has always been. ... I want to thank all the citizens of McComb for their prayers.”

Selectmen Wade Lamb, Bob Maddox and E.C. Nobles voted to affirm. Selectmen Melvin Joe Johnson and Robert Earl Smith dissented.

The vote, on a motion by Maddox, closed one chapter of a six-week saga that began in April, when Mayor Zach Patterson announced at a news conference that he had been presented with evidence that called Esch’s compliance with requirements to hold office into question.

Requests from Patterson for Esch to produce information clarifying those concerns were instead met with a terse letter that argued election commissioners and voters had confirmed Esch’s right to serve on the board. Esch then started asking questions about the mayor’s own residency.

The date of an upcoming hearing concerning Patterson — authorized by a board vote last week — has not yet been announced.
Had the city board concluded Tuesday that Esch removed his residence from McComb, his seat could have been vacated under Section 25-1-59 of the Mississippi Code.

Evidence introduced by the city during the more than three-hour hearing included utility bills for Esch’s McComb and Kentwood, La., properties, the result of an independent testing of a since-replaced water meter at Esch’s McComb property, a homeowner’s insurance policy that failed to list the Kentwood property as a secondary or seasonal home, and driver’s licenses, hunting licenses and tax returns for Esch and his wife.

The utility bills were two to three times higher at the Kentwood property for most months in the past year. Esch cited a larger property, insulation and a gas-powered heat and cooling system that he said cut electricity costs at the McComb home.

And the test of Esch’s water meter showed it as reading 23 percent of water passing through it, meaning it was malfunctioning but could possibly still provide data to estimate abnormally low usage.
Gillis argued that there is nothing preventing a person from owning multiple residences and maintaining one as his legal domicile for voting, filing taxes or other purposes. He said none of the city’s data addressed the question of whether Esch had abandoned his home in McComb with the intent to remain at the Kentwood property indefinitely.

Selectman E.C. Nobles took an even more direct route, asking Esch, “Where did you get dressed at today? Where did you wake up this morning?”

Both answers were Esch’s McComb address.

Proceedings were generally civil, but provoked reactions from the board room audience at times and included occasionally curt dialogue between combinations of Esch, Gillis, Nobles, Patterson and acting city attorney Ronnie Whittington regarding proper conduct of the meeting. City Attorney John H. “Bubber” White recused himself, citing conflict of interest.

Gillis sparked the first of several back-and-forth exchanges after his opening statement described Patterson’s conduct during the May 1 news conference and special called meeting as “contrary to the rules of decency and fair play.”
“Both were calculated to place — and did place — Danny Esch at a disadvantage in the minds of the public that has not been overcome,” Gillis said.

“First, Mayor Patterson is totally incorrect in his recitation of the law of domicile. He has repeatedly told this board and numerous public audiences that domicile is where you sleep,” Gillis said. “Every freshman law student knows that this statement is totally bogus. ... Second, evidence will show that the charges against Danny Esch follow a particular pattern and method which have become very familiar to the people of the City of McComb for the past 17 months.”

“There is no charge against Mr. Danny Esch,” Whittington responded. “There is no presumption of guilt. There is no presumption of innocence. There is a question whether Mr. Esch has removed himself from Ward 1, and that’s all. There is a question of fact.”

“Our point is that there are two factors involved,” Gillis replied, referring to both his legal arguments and Patterson’s actions.

“This board, I respectfully submit, voted to conduct a hearing, subject to judicial review,” Whittington responded.

“That (judicial review) would be the appropriate time” for concerns about methods, Patterson said.

“Well, that’s your opinion, and that’s not the opinion that’s going to govern this opening statement,” Gillis replied.

Patterson shot back, “My opinion in these hearings matter. I’m the presiding officer in these hearings. ... My conduct is not relevant here at this particular time.

“Let me tell you this,” Gillis responded. “Our contention is that in addition to the law and the facts, one of the relevant questions is whether this is part of a pattern of people who have opposed you politically.”

“I will tell you what’s relevant,” Patterson replied.

“You’re telling me, but it’s not going to make any difference,” Gillis retorted.

Later, Esch angrily rebutted questions about the difference in his utility bills.

“We see the same pattern of billed usage,” Whittington said, asking, “Is that not consistent with being located primarily in Louisiana?”

“Well, that’s in your eyes,” Esch returned.

“I’m asking,” Whittington replied.

“To me, no.” Esch bristled.

Still later, when Patterson offered his questions for Esch, Gillis turned to Whittington.

“Will you control your client, please?” Gillis asked.

“I’m not his client, and I will control you,” Patterson replied.

“Y’all are listening to a new lawyer now,” Gillis responded. “We object to the mayor taking charge here.”

“And your objection is noted,” Patterson said, turning back to Esch.

Among Patterson’s questions:

“Did you spend the Monday before (delivery of an April 25 letter) in McComb?”

“I don’t know. Was that the night you looked through my windows?” Esch replied.

Later, after Nobles asked Whittington who could properly bring allegations that would lead to the type of hearing being conducted, he cut off Patterson’s attempt to reply.

“Hold on, sir,” Nobles admonished Patterson. “I’m talking to the attorney. Are you a lawyer?”

In another exchange between Gillis and Patterson, Patterson rejected Gillis’ continued complaints about Patterson’s involvement in proceedings.

“You are highly inappropriate in this role,” Gillis said.

“Maybe you shouldn’t support me next time when I run for mayor,” Patterson replied.

Audience members chimed in at a few points, too.

After Lamb asked why Esch would mow a lawn and pay even a low water bill in McComb if he were living in Kentwood, a man’s said: “So he can try to keep being a selectman.”

Some audience members applauded after one line of questioning from Nobles.

“Is there any real estate agent in McComb that can say this man tried to sell his house?” Nobles asked. “Then what are we here for? ... You can clarify this right now: Do you intend to move to Kentwood? Do you still live in your home? ... That’s all I got to know.”

Let us know what you think about this story or topic.




amazed wrote on Jun 7, 2008 10:31 PM:

" to the white race, you know you have all the advantages over the black race, stop pretending and talking, because nobody believes anything you are saying. I am amazed at the things you say and as I always say, you really seem to believe it or do you. You know who caused all these problems and still causing all the problems in race relations, stop talking so insanely, because it does not make sense to anybody not even to you. JUST STOP AND GET REAL. "

Mike from Houston wrote on Jun 6, 2008 10:43 AM:

" Now let's drop the mayoral investigation and let the board get back to business. "

Martin Hayes wrote on Jun 5, 2008 9:35 PM:

" I think it is pretty obvious that Mr. Esch has interests elsewhere outside of McComb. As selectman and supposed City Water Customer, you can't tell me he did not notice that he was paying less than what he was supposed to for water and choose not to say anything. This by itself along with the other 'walk between the raindrops"actions between here and Kentwood speak for themselves. Several of our city selectman need to have gone years ago. Until we get young honest selectman dedicated to doing whats right, and not riding the public trough, we will continue to suffer this embarresment "

Aggravated wrote on Jun 5, 2008 2:13 PM:

" Congrats to Mr. Nobles for taking a higher road. As to the others: Grow up, kiddies. "

guess what wrote on Jun 5, 2008 12:22 PM:

" If you wear a hat in the mayor's meeting you can get kicked out because its a "lack of respect" but the mayor can walk out without the proper ending to a meeting. "

the jokester wrote on Jun 5, 2008 10:04 AM:

" here's a joke for you.... mccomb politics.. ha ha ha ha... funny huh, sorry, that all i got... it is possible i will tell the same one tomorrow, and again the next day.. let wait and see "

To Keep It Real wrote on Jun 5, 2008 7:49 AM:

" Why not name the other racist organization...NAACP...... "

Bummed wrote on Jun 5, 2008 6:37 AM:

" Somebody give Bobby Maddox a pat on the back for making the motion to put an end to the Esch investigation. "

Keep it real wrote on Jun 5, 2008 12:17 AM:

" It is a black and white issue! The only time a white man say Hooray to a black man is when it benefits him. So it is a black and white issue. This ISSUE will continue as long as we have KKK and any other racist organization. The fuel needs to stop amongst blacks and unity as one. The white man theme is Divide and Conquer. "

old guy wrote on Jun 4, 2008 9:38 PM:

" I'm so relieved to learn that Esch is a resident of McComb. Hopefully we can soon clear up where the Mayor resides and then perhaps we can get to work on fixing the streets, the sewers, water, etc . You know those things we pay taxes for!!!! "

From Afar wrote on Jun 4, 2008 7:00 PM:

" Selectman Nobles is the best thing to happen to McComb in quite a while. I hope in the next election the citizens take the opportunity to replace Esch, Patterson and the rest of them with forward thinking representatives like Mr. Nobles. I seriously doubt any of the current bunch will actually run for re-election when the next opportunity comes up. "

Out of Town wrote on Jun 4, 2008 5:22 PM:

" I log onto the Enterprisse Journal web site everyday. I am tried of seeing the Mayor, Board Member and the Enterprise Journal on the front page. I am sure something else is happening in the city that requires more attention. Please move on to something else. This issue has been resolved. MOVE ON "

Ticket Master wrote on Jun 4, 2008 5:01 PM:

" Maybe ticketmaster will start selling tickes to these meetings and McComb and get the much need revenue to pay for the lawyer fees. "

citizen of McComb wrote on Jun 4, 2008 4:18 PM:

" I don't care what color the mayor is..Just because i am black that does not mean I have to settle for less than what this city deserves. For all you folks out there that are taking black / white sides... you need to form your own opinion and stand by it. "

Thanks ward wrote on Jun 4, 2008 4:16 PM:

" Ward 3, we thank you very much for electing such a wonderful man (EC Nobles). After last night's meeting, ONLY Zach's supporters and croonies can say this young didnt do the right thing. As for the City of McComb, we are tremendously grateful for EC Nobles. How about a Mayor run in 2010? "

Its a great day wrote on Jun 4, 2008 4:14 PM:

" Thank-you Mr Nobles for doing the righteous thing and standing up to the Mayor. We now have a govering body for the first time in 17 months -- don't let that go.

Maybe now other pressing matters like the audit, morale of the city employees, civil service and other items can be addressed.

Does a part-time Mayor need a full time car? Is the "Chat" a productive vehicle for McComb's future? Should the Fireman be required to furnish their own toilet paper?

I think not. "

Anna wrote on Jun 4, 2008 4:12 PM:

" I think we should start putting out "Nobles for Mayor" signs. "

To The Real Racist wrote on Jun 4, 2008 4:07 PM:

" Are you serious?? "Mess it up for the city's first black mayor?" He messed it up for himself. I am ambarrassed as an African-American. The race of the next mayor does not matter, as long as he does a better job. You are not doing anything but proving the point that is being made here. THIS IS NOT A BLACK/ WHITE ISSUE. It is about what is right and what is wrong. "

proud of the board wrote on Jun 4, 2008 3:58 PM:

" smith and johnson have their head in the sand or too close to the mayor. "

Eyes wrote on Jun 4, 2008 3:48 PM:

" I wasn't at the meeting, but there are no words that can express my feelings regarding the City of McComb and its constituents ... BUT, can anyone tell me if the Mayor really looked in Mr. Esch's windows and at night ???? I think we've got bigger issues ! "

McComb Business Owner wrote on Jun 4, 2008 3:34 PM:

" EC I think it's time you think seriously about running for mayor when the time comes. I know you are hesitant, but this city would benifit a great deal from your leadership. Have no doubt, Earnest will not be intimidated by anyone, period. I applaud the courage you have shown thus far, and will continue to support you through these trying times. You have a been given a platform, and a voice for us all. Rest assured this is not a one time event, he will continue to fight for what is right, not for the few, but the majority of us without a platform to express our views. Please keep EC in your prayers. His courage will unite more people than it will ever offend.
Let he who hath no sin cast the first stone! I think that is the appropriate scripture for anyone labeling EC anything less than a man trying to do what the facts dictate. "

Please wrote on Jun 4, 2008 3:14 PM:

" Please, let us quit talking about what race people are. We are all humans and finally justice was served today. To Mr. Nobles: You seem like a straight shooter who will fight for what is right. I commend you for your common sense approach to politics. I don;t think we should be in favor of our selectmen voting along racial lines. We should support them to vote for what is right no matter what. What a good day in the city of McComb! "

Thanks wrote on Jun 4, 2008 3:04 PM:

" Thanks to Mr. Nobles and Mr. Esch! Thanks for being respectful selectman to your city. "

popcorn wrote on Jun 4, 2008 3:02 PM:

" How about Nobles for Mayor ? This man has integrity, and won't be bullied by the "know-nothings" of any color. "

Question wrote on Jun 4, 2008 2:47 PM:

" Did the mayor have a chat after this meeting? Why not? "

Chad wrote on Jun 4, 2008 2:32 PM:

" Wow! Someone in politics with a backbone. That is indeed rare. Thank you, Mr. Nobles. "

KEVIN wrote on Jun 4, 2008 2:24 PM:

" Hurray for the City of McComb!!! Looks like we finally have the proper form of City Charter, a weak Mayor. ... I would also like to take my hat off to Mr. Nobles for a couragious stand he has made in the history of McComb for a new chapter. All my support goes to the men whom stood for what was justice in the eys of God and didn't look at ones skin color to make there vote.
Now that the mayor has been weekened lets move forward and drop the mayors hearing. I do not believe a vote against the mayor would represent a fare and ethical stance. As for how this man speaks to others when they don't completly agree with him is an insult to anyone with any degree of intelligence. My own father never spoke to me the way this man speaks to people. I look forward to the day this man speaks to me with disrespeact and I will correct him. With all due respect. "

Bobs Your Uncle wrote on Jun 4, 2008 2:14 PM:

" To "The Real Racist" -- Can you site some examples of this racism that exists on the Board of Selectman? And by that I mean some specific agenda items that the white selectmen voted down because they hate black people? You made the charge, now back it up. "

Phaedrus wrote on Jun 4, 2008 2:11 PM:

" "I am not his client, and I will control you." I think that pretty well sums it up. "

The Real Racist wrote on Jun 4, 2008 2:02 PM:

" These white selectmen vote along racial lines when anything benefiting the black community hits the agenda. Some folks in the black community are so blind to what's going on. Go ahead EC and help these folks get rid of the first black mayor, the next one won't be black. How will you feel then? "

fed-up wrote on Jun 4, 2008 1:41 PM:

" was anyone surprised at zacks actions? i think not. way to go mr nobles, as for smith and johnson, i hope their constiuents see where they stand. "

Concerned in McComb wrote on Jun 4, 2008 1:35 PM:

" Mr. Mayor, your conduct certainly should be in question!!! This continued witch hunt your on shall certainly lead back to your own door!!! I am very pleased that we have Ernest on board now, and that Mr. Esch kept his seat. A victory for McComb!!! "

susan wrote on Jun 4, 2008 1:35 PM:

" How about EC for mayor.He is respected by all races. "

one part is over wrote on Jun 4, 2008 1:26 PM:

" finally at least the Esch part of this is over. Thanks the good Lord Mr Nobles has some good sense. His presence has made all the difference in the last few meetings and I think it will continue. The other Selectmen and the Mayor could learn a thing or 2 from this young man. "

Jerry wrote on Jun 4, 2008 1:16 PM:

" Patterson's comments at this meeting show a total lack of respect for everyone and every law. Sad, sad time for McComb. "

Mayor Gone Wild wrote on Jun 4, 2008 1:13 PM:

" (The Mayor) went to extreme to attempt to have Danny removed from the board. All this ... is ridiculous. I'm ashamed to say I share the same race with him. Zach showed that its all about him when he continually disrespected Mr. Norman Gillis. "

Brother Dave wrote on Jun 4, 2008 1:05 PM:

" Well, this should settle this matter if Zack doesn't hold a grudge. Congratulations to Selectman Nobles for not voting black or white, Esch or Patterson, but voting for what he felt was right. He has always been an honorable man & will now be an honorable selectman. Hooray for McComb City. "

Too Personal wrote on Jun 4, 2008 12:58 PM:

" The facts, not feelings, showed that Esch had moved. Selectman Nobles should work out his personal disdain with the Mayor on his personal time, not to the degradation of the city and his constituents. We can only pray that Mr. E.C. will make right decisions from this point forward. "

Ronnie Temple wrote on Jun 4, 2008 12:56 PM:

" Hey, I have an idea. Sell the rights of this to hollywood - there is plenty DRAMA. Maybe the city could get enough to pay for the wastewater treatment facility. Anyway, I am an optimist. I hope for good things in the future for the City. May God Bless the City of McComb City. "

finally proud wrote on Jun 4, 2008 12:51 PM:

" I am proud of Mr. Nobles for speaking up and taking a stand and making his own decision in this matter. "

d wrote on Jun 4, 2008 12:51 PM:

" Thank you Mr. Nobles. I don't care if you are black, white, green or yellow, you are standing for yourself and not race or special interest. THANK YOU !!!! You sir, are a man of conviction. I believe you have the majority of your district and city with you. As for you Zack. The hearing you wanted was had, now lets move on to HELP the "beautiful city of McComb". "

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